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Blackfeet
- Male: Aki-skassi
- Female: Aki-Gwan

I removed the above terms as there is no source and no indication of which group called "Blackfeet" uses those terms. It is not the Blackfoot of the Blackfoot Nation located in Montana. Hyacinth 20:20, 1 Jul 2004 (UTC)

See http://www.nwtwospiritsociety.org/history.html Ronabop 12:47, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)

The article linked to above doesn't specify any more than the wikipedia article does.

See: Blackfoot. WHICH Blackfoot group uses the terms?
According to Bruno Nettl (1989) there is no documentation of MTF (for lack of a better term) Two-Spirit folks, while there are well documented FTM or "manly hearted women".

Hyacinth 22:30, 25 Jul 2004 (UTC)

a'kiikoan ~ aakiikoan, which is probably what was meant by "Aki-Gwan", simply is the word for "girl", composed of a'kii ~ aakii "woman" and -koan "person" (the latter as in siksikakoan "Blackfoot person" etc.). So, sorry, no "manly hearted woman" here. The terms (Siksika A a'kiihka'si "acting like a woman", aawoowa'kii "misaligned woman"), with dialectal variation (Siksika A/B, Kainaa-Piikani A/B/C), are in use with all groups. In case of doubt, you may look up words in Frantz/Russell's dictionary, curricula and researchers' fieldnotes. Heike B.22:25, 10 Apr 2006 (CEDT)

List of two-spirit people

I think List of two-spirit people might be a helpful list. Thoughts? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 22:32, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lead tweak

Since there's a note making the request, I just wanted to specify that I changed "modern" to "contemporary" since they are essentially synonymous in this context as far as I can tell, and it flows better in the sentence in my opinion. Cheers. Remsense诉 08:55, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

1990 Date

I personally knew a Native American who self-identified the term two-spirit in 1980, so I wonder about the source of using 1990 as the date this term was created.

REF: "Coined in 1990 as a primarily ceremonial term promoting community recognition ..." Nemanistatoo (talk) 19:08, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

as usual wiki pidea has proven to be a source of misinformation. Berdachi was the word given for the "third gender" by french fur trappers back in at least the early 19th century. They encountered this in the Lakota tribes as it was " institutionalized" in their society. Berdachi is given to us by french trappers 166.230.18.30 (talk) 20:56, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed that the date is just inaccurate. We have art by Lucy Qinnuayuak, an Inuit artist, titled “Hunters and Women approaching Two Spirit” from 1965. This term was not coined in 1990. 131.191.82.160 (talk) 19:40, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pan-indian

The term pan-indian should come from the erroneous european idea that natives like Cherokee, Sioux, Apache were indians because Columbus went in search for the "indies". I suppose any native of those lands could feel misrepresented with that term, so I suggest a discussion to be brought forward. 93.34.128.12 (talk) 11:03, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]